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Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 at 9:29 PM
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Paul1985
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Hello peeps. Weighing up getting a 320d. Doing some searching on the interweb and prices seem to be stable so now may be the time to buy. I am going to be doing circa 300 miles per week commute and diesel is pretty much the only way to travel over here in Norn Iron. Ideally i just want leather, about 100k on clock (max) and bluetooth connectivity. The BMW ticks the boxes for the right money. MSport would be nice but is it worth the premium over SE? What are known faults? Ownership stories etc? Verdict? What model year/engine give trouble etc etc Basically i am looking someone to tell me that im not going to receive a mahoosive bill in a few weeks. I know turbo filters being changed regularly is a must etc but that is the extent of my research to date
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Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 at 9:33 PM
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Orange Cola
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DPF failure territory.
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Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 at 9:38 PM
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DMF more likely. I also had one with a notchy 2nd gear at 100k Also, some out there with steering lock problems.
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Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM
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n1ck
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Not a wise choice. I was in the same boat last year, looking or a 320D with 65000miles. I read up and soon saw past the glitz and glamour of initial BMW ownership and found a much murkier world of unreliability and poor BMW service that you wont read about in any magazines or online sites. The 6 cylinders, e.g. 325D are supposedly slightly better but I have been put off BMW 4 pots.
Updated March 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM
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Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 at 10:56 PM
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JonMad
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I had one as a company car from new in 2005. I don't recall any real problems in 60k miles over 4 years. It was quite handy down a b road as well.
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Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 at 11:32 PM
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Paul1985
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DPF, DMF? Equivalent Audi's are just a bit bland. 3 series on nice 19' wheels and subtle tweaks looks like a lot of car for not a lot of dough I have driven an SE with almost 200k and seemed in great fettle. Strange scraping noise from steering rack and the LED on radio were the only signs of probs. So the general consensus is stay away then? Are the petrols or 6 cylinders a better idea? Feel free to suggest alternatives
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Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 at 11:50 PM
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Orange Cola
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DPF = diesel particulate filter. If the car hasn't been able to clean out its DPF then the DPF will fail. £1k+ to replace, which is a lot of money for an exhaust sub section (and one of the reasons why they're nicked off cars and vans a lot, some to order and the rest to be weighed in at the scrap yard) Anything steering or suspension related is going to be costly on a BMW, depending on the wear you could spend a significant proportion of the cars value on sorting those bits when you could have just added 75% to the original budget and just bought a better car. Great used bargain for someone who can fix the bits on the drive at the weekend but as a commuter it could turn out to be expensive.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 at 6:31 AM
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Jobbo
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The earlier E90 320d doesn't even have a DPF - it was introduced with the 177bhp version.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 at 7:54 AM
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mattcambs
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If it looks like it's been thrashed the DPF is pribably ok, so buy with confidence 
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 at 7:55 AM
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Mito Man
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Who actually replaces the DPF? Everyone just removes it and bam, extra power, not that expensive, no more problems.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 at 8:29 AM
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Daddydadbo
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Accord diesel would be slower but better. 320D is the Escort Popular of today!
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 at 9:04 AM
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Mike1215
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JonMad said... It was quite handy down a b road as well.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 at 9:19 AM
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Paul1985
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Daddydadbo said... Accord diesel would be slower but better. 320D is the Escort Popular of today!
Heard flywheels on the Accords and the chains are notorious. To be honest, looking to spend about £6k. The Beemer sounded prestigious for the price but dont want hassle
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM
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Daddydadbo
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Paul1985 said... Daddydadbo said... Accord diesel would be slower but better. 320D is the Escort Popular of today!
Heard flywheels on the Accords and the chains are notorious. To be honest, looking to spend about £6k. The Beemer sounded prestigious for the price but dont want hassle
Get them serviced to schedule and the chain is fine, just needs checked at the service. People neglect their cars then moan online that hey are rubbish. When I was on the Accord Forum there were guys remapping to 190bhp and not having any problems with regular service and oil change etc. No hassle go for a Kia with 5 years of warranty left?
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 at 11:23 AM
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Toon-10
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Can't comment on the diesel but the msport is worth it over a basic or se model. I tried a few before buying mine. The sport feels less wallowy and more dynamic. If its just being used for motorway miles I'd consider a none sport.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 at 1:29 PM
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scotta
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Daddydadbo said... Paul1985 said... Daddydadbo said... Accord diesel would be slower but better. 320D is the Escort Popular of today!
Heard flywheels on the Accords and the chains are notorious. To be honest, looking to spend about £6k. The Beemer sounded prestigious for the price but dont want hassle
Get them serviced to schedule and the chain is fine, just needs checked at the service. People neglect their cars then moan online that hey are rubbish. When I was on the Accord Forum there were guys remapping to 190bhp and not having any problems with regular service and oil change etc. No hassle go for a Kia with 5 years of warranty left?
The accord forum im on is fairly quiet - basically cos nothing really breaks on them. Clutches on the I-Dtec's can go and there is a problem with speakers on 09 - 10 cars (i had them replaced under warranty) additionally i had a sticky starter motor replaced under warranty. after that nothings gone wrong in the 17,000 miles ive put on it and its now got 60k on the clock. I did toy with the idea of a remap but it cant be done via the OBD. the ECU needs to be removed and the EEPROMS replaced. Didnt fancy some garage lackey wielding a soldering iron around my ecu. It could do with a bit more grunt tho. 150 bhp isnt that quick in a car of this size. you can still however eek 50mpg out of it if you drive like a fairy.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM
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Toon-10
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scotta said... Daddydadbo said... Paul1985 said... Daddydadbo said... Accord diesel would be slower but better. 320D is the Escort Popular of today!
Heard flywheels on the Accords and the chains are notorious. To be honest, looking to spend about £6k. The Beemer sounded prestigious for the price but dont want hassle
Get them serviced to schedule and the chain is fine, just needs checked at the service. People neglect their cars then moan online that hey are rubbish. When I was on the Accord Forum there were guys remapping to 190bhp and not having any problems with regular service and oil change etc. No hassle go for a Kia with 5 years of warranty left?
The accord forum im on is fairly quiet - basically cos nothing really breaks on them. Clutches on the I-Dtec's can go and there is a problem with speakers on 09 - 10 cars (i had them replaced under warranty) additionally i had a sticky starter motor replaced under warranty. after that nothings gone wrong in the 17,000 miles ive put on it and its now got 60k on the clock. I did toy with the idea of a remap but it cant be done via the OBD. the ECU needs to be removed and the EEPROMS replaced. Didnt fancy some garage lackey wielding a soldering iron around my ecu. It could do with a bit more grunt tho. 150 bhp isnt that quick in a car of this size. you can still however eek 50mpg out of it if you drive like a fairy.
On the accord, again not had the diesel but had 4 completely trouble free years with mine. Very reliable and capable car.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 at 4:39 PM
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Paul1985
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Basically supply and demand of jobs over here in the Emerald isle dictate that wages are sh1t by in large. I live pretty rural however the roads are brilliant surrounding the local towns so cannot complain too much. Regardless, circa 50mpg is a must and the 3 series can supply this The Accord is tempting however!! I just hate the instrument dials on them, they look crap. My mum has a 1.7 CDTi Civic and it needed a new turbot, other than that - bombproof! If you had £6.5k in your pocket would you rather have a chancey 320d BMW on the drive or a Honda Accord 2.2 d?
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 at 8:44 PM
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McSwede
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The potential for big bills is always high with these new type diesel engines with a few miles on board. Diesel Particulate Filters, Dual Mass Flywheels, Injectors, EGR valves and the like are costly when they go t1ts up. If you can find a good independent BMW specialist locally then this will help. When we were running an E39 I found that genuine BMW parts for models out of production were reasonably priced.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 at 6:39 AM
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Daddydadbo
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Paul1985 said... Basically supply and demand of jobs over here in the Emerald isle dictate that wages are sh1t by in large. I live pretty rural however the roads are brilliant surrounding the local towns so cannot complain too much. Regardless, circa 50mpg is a must and the 3 series can supply this The Accord is tempting however!! I just hate the instrument dials on them, they look crap. My mum has a 1.7 CDTi Civic and it needed a new turbot, other than that - bombproof! If you had £6.5k in your pocket would you rather have a chancey 320d BMW on the drive or a Honda Accord 2.2 d?
Probably neither tbh. I would probably look for a Volvo S60 D5 or V50 2.0D. Comfier seats than either of the others and pretty decent if serviced.
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