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Hang on to that 968 Sport chap - one of 6 cars they've tipped in an article as a 'Sleeper Classic' that might shoot up in value ( also DC2 ITR Coaster ) :)

Updated January 9, 2013 at 9:05 AM

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I reckon if the 968CS had motorsport heritage, they'd be worth a fortune now.

It's the only thing they're missing.

They might start creeping up in value, now that things like E30 M3s, Integrales etc are worth a fortune and might be out of reach for most budding classic performance car enthusiasts.

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Marv said...

I reckon if the 968CS had motorsport heritage, they'd be worth a fortune now.

It's the only thing they're missing.

They might start creeping up in value, now that things like E30 M3s, Integrales etc are worth a fortune and might be out of reach for most budding classic performance car enthusiasts.

He's reckoning the smart money goes on the normal 968 Sport rather than CS - they're low enough in value by comparison to be a good buy and are similar enough to still get the whole experience out of

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Mike1215 said...

Hang on to that 968 Sport chap - one of 6 cars they've tipped in an article as a 'Sleeper Classic' that might shoot up in value ( also DC2 ITR Coaster ) :)

I don’t think Integra DC2 will ever ‘shoot up in value’. :D Mint and original ones maybe but they are few and far between; there are many shoddy ones out there and they certainly are not depreciation-proof.

Mine isn't mint and I reckon it has lost at least 15% of its value in 13 months and I have spent quite a bit in general maintenance and upgrade.

What other cars on the list Mike? P1, Evo 6, 190E 2.3/2.5-16?

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Coaster said...

Mike1215 said...

Hang on to that 968 Sport chap - one of 6 cars they've tipped in an article as a 'Sleeper Classic' that might shoot up in value ( also DC2 ITR Coaster ) :)

I don’t think Integra DC2 will ever ‘shoot up in value’. :D Mint and original ones maybe but they are few and far between; there are many shoddy ones out there and they certainly are not depreciation-proof.

Mine isn't mint and I reckon it has lost at least 15% of its value in 13 months and I have spent quite a bit in general maintenance and upgrade.

What other cars on the list Mike? P1, Evo 6, 190E 2.3/2.5-16?


Mainstay of the article was the 3-dr Sierra Cosworth, 968 Sport, DC2 ITR, Alfa SZ, 205 Gti 1.9 and Esprit GT3 Kin.

Made me smile when Frankel said he was impressed with the 3-door handling - better than he remembered when new.

I think Frankel himself is in the process of buying a 205 1.9 ...... He says the best variant he's driven was the Gutmann Mi16 version

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Mike1215 said...

Marv said...

I reckon if the 968CS had motorsport heritage, they'd be worth a fortune now.

It's the only thing they're missing.

They might start creeping up in value, now that things like E30 M3s, Integrales etc are worth a fortune and might be out of reach for most budding classic performance car enthusiasts.

He's reckoning the smart money goes on the normal 968 Sport rather than CS - they're low enough in value by comparison to be a good buy and are similar enough to still get the whole experience out of

Yeah, there's not that much difference between the CS and Sport in reality. I think most people like the extra creature comforts that the Sport brings anyway.

The price difference between a CS and a Sport is silly, really.

BTW, the 968 Sport was a UK only thing, wasn't a model sold by Porsche in Europe. Which is why my car is a CS....but it was pretty much as close as you could get to a Sport, spec wise, when I bought it.

Updated January 10, 2013 at 8:26 AM

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Mike1215 said...

Coaster said...

Mike1215 said...

Hang on to that 968 Sport chap - one of 6 cars they've tipped in an article as a 'Sleeper Classic' that might shoot up in value ( also DC2 ITR Coaster ) :)

I don’t think Integra DC2 will ever ‘shoot up in value’. :D Mint and original ones maybe but they are few and far between; there are many shoddy ones out there and they certainly are not depreciation-proof.

Mine isn't mint and I reckon it has lost at least 15% of its value in 13 months and I have spent quite a bit in general maintenance and upgrade.

What other cars on the list Mike? P1, Evo 6, 190E 2.3/2.5-16?


Mainstay of the article was the 3-dr Sierra Cosworth, 968 Sport, DC2 ITR, Alfa SZ, 205 Gti 1.9 and Esprit GT3 Kin.

Made me smile when Frankel said he was impressed with the 3-door handling - better than he remembered when new.

I think Frankel himself is in the process of buying a 205 1.9 ...... He says the best variant he's driven was the Gutmann Mi16 version

I know nothing about this, but I've got a feeling the Alfa SZ will be worth £50k + in 5 years time, fantastic bargain at the moment. Also older 'Spy Who Loved Me' Esprits are bound to be a great buy at the moment surely? Quite a few around the £15k mark.

For a car to actually buy though, the 968 probably wins:D

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Marv said...

BTW, the 968 Sport was a UK only thing, wasn't a model sold by Porsche in Europe. Which is why my car is a CS....but it was pretty much as close as you could get to a Sport, spec wise, when I bought it.

I didn't realise yours was a CS Marv

It always surprises me that the mags, when they do "what we tip for future stardom" type articles, never pick up on how comparatively cheap Manta GTEs can be picked up for ( comparing to rwd Escorts and Corollas ). They're good motorway cruisers and already have fuel injection as a plus over Escorts.
None of these cars are cheap compared to more modern stuff of course but for a practical retro type drivers' car I think they're very good. This is a hatch one.......

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.....but even the coupe was quite practical having a fairly deep boot. Vauxhalls probably are nowhere near as good as old BMWs, Fords etc for supplying parts for discontinued stuff

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Mantas look bloody brilliant too 8)

If parts are a problem, then that'd put me off. I guess some people don't mind parts being no longer available, but if I'm considering a classic, part availability is a big factor.

How are Sapphire Cosworth values nowadays?

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Marv said...

Mantas look bloody brilliant too 8)

If parts are a problem, then that'd put me off. I guess some people don't mind parts being no longer available, but if I'm considering a classic, part availability is a big factor.

How are Sapphire Cosworth values nowadays?

I guess body/trim panels/electrical switches might be a problem although people do seem to be able to keep them going. Other parts less so...but I'm just guessing to be fair based on Manta forums. I'd be tempted to have put a 2.0XE in one anyway if I'd have had another one - not a difficult swap thanks to the 1.8 sohc engined Mantas that were made alongside the GTEs

Sapphire values are rising slowly as rough ones get broken but I don't think mine is worth that much more than I paid for it. Not as valuable as 3-doors for sure

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Mike1215 said...

Made me smile when Frankel said he was impressed with the 3-door handling - better than he remembered when new.

I think Frankel himself is in the process of buying a 205 1.9 ...... He says the best variant he's driven was the Gutmann Mi16 version

I was just watching THIS the other day. A 3-dr in moonstone would be nice. 8)

205 GTi used to be my favorite classic hot hatch but it’s been superseded by Clio Williams. I think the Clios look fantastic; if only I had the space and money...

I must say Manta never interested me; growing up in Hong Kong, Opel was never that popular there.

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Coaster said...

I was just watching THIS the other day. A 3-dr in moonstone would be nice. 8)

205 GTi used to be my favorite classic hot hatch but it’s been superseded by Clio Williams. I think the Clios look fantastic; if only I had the space and money...

I must say Manta never interested me; growing up in Hong Kong, Opel was never that popular there.


I haven't seen that Quentin Dracula clip for a fair while :)

Not his sort of car I wouldn't have thought.....and he's wrong on the best model to get..... ;)

I got put off the Clio Williams by the one a mate had ( he had a 1.9 205 before and also agreed he liked the 205 better ) - he did have quite a few problems with it so could well have been a bad one though. I think I was spoiled by my 309GTi as a comparison against it too.

I think the Manta was a bit underrated to be fair - they're starting to creep up in price. The other car that seems 'cheap' compared to other old stuff is the old 2wd XR4i. I sold mine to get the Sapphire but it was a tough old thing. 50kg lighter than a GT86, but more room inside - genuine 4-seater. A burbly V6 ( same as in old TVRs ) that was surprisingly economical on a run ( even the Fast Lane editor enjoyed his and was surprised at the 35mpg on a motorway cruise ). Just the suspension was too soft as standard ( myriad of 3-door Cosworth stuff to fix that ) and you had to plunder the 4wd model to get a LSD. Only just starting to creep up over 1-2k in the last few months

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Here's a nice Sport FS:

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/968/porsche-968-sport-1994/1013506

If it sells for £11.5k then maybe the value of Sports are going up (that one has been well maintained and has some desirable mods too)

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Marv said...

Here's a nice Sport FS:

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/968/porsche-968-sport-1994/1013506

If it sells for £11.5k then maybe the value of Sports are going up (that one has been well maintained and has some desirable mods too)

Looks like a practical family weekend car with those rear seats :)

My friend still has his 944T

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