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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 8:33 PM
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NotoriousREV
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Just watching Fawlty Towers and I realised that there's a whole class of cars that has disappeared since the 70s: the 3 door estate. Vauxhall Viva
Austin/Morris 1100/1300
Mini Traveller/Countryman/Clubman
Vauxhall Astra
Ford Escort
Austin Allegro Why were they popular then and why have they fallen from favour?
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 8:36 PM
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mik
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NotoriousREV said... a/ Why were they popular then and
2/ why have they fallen from favour?
a/ No idea, and
2/ because they are stupid. My dad had a rickety one of these in the 80's (alongside their Austin Ambassador). I hated it. 
Updated December 16, 2012 at 8:38 PM
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM
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Marv
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mik said... NotoriousREV said... Why were they popular then and why have they fallen from favour?
because they are stupid.
What Mik said ^^
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 8:41 PM
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Jobbo
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Did they only exist because they were made without windows as vans?
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 8:42 PM
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Zonda_
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MK1 VW Polo
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 8:44 PM
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Jobbo
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Zonda_ said... MK1 VW Polo
A notable estate car  
The mk2 wasn't sold as an estate, just a more practical hatchback.
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 8:48 PM
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Mito Man
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Well done guys. Here's another niche that one of the big German car manufacturers will revive all because you reminded them.
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 8:52 PM
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pilouil
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The Mini Clubman (I think it's this one, I may mix up the Mini names) is a first step going back there, since it has 3.5 doors...
And the Ferrari FF is a kind of 3-door estate car isn't it? 
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 8:52 PM
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NotoriousREV
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Jobbo said... Did they only exist because they were made without windows as vans?
That certainly applies to the Mini, Astra & Escort. Actually, the current Mini Clubman already occupies this niche, albeit with the weird half-door thingy.
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 8:53 PM
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NotoriousREV
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pilouil said... The Mini Clubman (I think it's this one, I may mix up the Mini names) is a first step going back there, since it has 3.5 doors...
And the Ferrari FF is a kind of 3-door estate car isn't it?
Yep, that's true. Let's add the Reliant Scimitar and Volvo P1800E.
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 8:55 PM
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zedleg
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pilouil said... The Mini Clubman (I think it's this one, I may mix up the Mini names) is a first step going back there, since it has 3.5 doors...
And the Ferrari FF is a kind of 3-door estate car isn't it?
It's a shooting brake. The same but different  .
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 8:55 PM
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NotoriousREV
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mik said... NotoriousREV said... a/ Why were they popular then and
2/ why have they fallen from favour?
a/ No idea, and
2/ because they are stupid. My dad had a rickety one of these in the 80's (alongside their Austin Ambassador). I hated it.
We had a blue one and I loved it. Sat in the back us kids had opening sliding windows and if you were in the front you had the quarterlights! We traded ours in for a brown Maxi 
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 9:02 PM
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Jobbo
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This is the Viva estate you're referring to, isn't it? Like the Audi 100 Avant, it's a body shape which is also due a revival. 
Mind you, the mk2 Scirocco boot was uncannily similar to the Avant; perhaps that should count as an estate? 
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 9:02 PM
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mik
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NotoriousREV said... We traded ours in for a brown Maxi
We had ours after both of the Maxi's were old & sold. This was the main part of the problem.
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 9:03 PM
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pilouil said... The Mini Clubman (I think it's this one, I may mix up the Mini names) is a first step going back there, since it has 3.5 doors...
And the Ferrari FF is a kind of 3-door estate car isn't it?
Mini Clubman has 4.5 doors
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 9:04 PM
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NotoriousREV
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@Jobbo, the earlier HB Viva was also a 3 door but yes, we had one of those too. I'd love a Viva HC estate now, but with a red top motor fitted, the shape is awesome (especially the Magnum quad headlight version) HB estate: 
Updated December 16, 2012 at 9:06 PM
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 9:08 PM
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pilouil
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Zonda_ said... Mini Clubman has 4.5 doors
Yes that's true I missed the fact it has two rear doors 
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 9:10 PM
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 9:11 PM
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Jobbo
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I'd forgotten this good example - the only 3dr 7-seater? 
Maybe not... beaten to it by its clear philosophical inspiration 
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 9:14 PM
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mik
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I do still want one of these. With a v8 though 
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