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Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2012 at 2:40 AM
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zagrebzagreb
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Just finished the story about the new Vanquish and the follow-up interview with the companies CEO. Here's the thing... When is Dr Bez ever going to face some direct questions from a knowledgeable journalist about the big 'Q' problems at Aston Martin -- you know, QUALITY? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzmL2rl1j8Q Here's video about a 9,000 mile DB9 that destroyed its engine (complete with an engine teardown and investigation into the catastrophic failure, which clearly resulted from poor oil management within the engine...) The worst is when the pistons are revealed to be nothing but off-the-shelf Ford units... Unbelievable.
Updated December 15, 2012 at 2:41 AM
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Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM
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Orange Cola
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Speaking to a Ford engineer recently described the Mondeo V6 as "more like half an Aston engine rather than a pair of V6's bolted together". Maybe people should think of if another way around? Either way Porsche engineered the motor first.
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Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2012 at 1:21 PM
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Sisu
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Yeah the good old days of pointlessly unique components, the inability to interchange with any other car in production and an ever dwindling worldwide supply.
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Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2012 at 2:19 PM
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Sisu
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So what is your beef, is that your car?
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 6:15 PM
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Orange Cola
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Clearly not interested and just spreading.
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 9:37 PM
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scotta
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I wonder how many "off the shelf" vag bits you might find on a Bugatti or Lamborghini engine? The air con units in the gallardo are I believe out the A6 - I wouldn't see that as a problem at all.
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 9:44 PM
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caneswell
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It revs about as high and will have similar gas pressure so why do the pistons need redesigning, if they are proven to work reliably in the Ford engine?
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 9:50 PM
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scotta
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caneswell said... It revs about as high and will have similar gas pressure so why do the pistons need redesigning, if they are proven to work reliably in the Ford engine?
I would imagine they looked at the ford items that had had thousands of hours of testing already and had been out in thousands of road cars already and thought - yep they'll do!
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Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 at 10:24 PM
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Orange Cola
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scotta said... caneswell said... It revs about as high and will have similar gas pressure so why do the pistons need redesigning, if they are proven to work reliably in the Ford engine?
I would imagine they looked at the ford items that had had thousands of hours of testing already and had been out in thousands of road cars already and thought - yep they'll do!
Technically running less power per cylinder too, so should in theory be more reliable. As the video states it looks like oil issues however they're not all falling over at 9k miles. More info required.
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Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 at 2:40 AM
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phut
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I'm indignant! about..something! brrrfffgggshshs.
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Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 at 7:25 AM
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Sisu
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I don't think there will be any more understanding of why the component failed as the geeza seems quite surprised that there are alloy components inside the engine in the first place.
The rear two cyl are furthest away from the pump a 7 yr old car that has done 9000 miles. The newer pistons are better no question about that and have a better oil jacket. But they won't last long if they are starved of oil either.
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