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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:05 AM
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Daddydadbo

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Next summer my Wife is likely to start teaching in the village school. I work 5 minutes walk from our house already and that will make two cars a bit silly. Sensibly I should sell the Saab and keep the CRV but I know I will get itchy feet with just the CRV. Ideally I need a car that will push on when needed but still be able to tow our caravan. I also want it to be safe. So far I have considered an X5 4.4i as they are stupidly cheap but tyres are probably quite dear and I am worried the gearbox is the same as in Jobbo's car. Audi A6 Allroad 2.7T any thoughts?
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:07 AM
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Alex_

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Skoda Octavia Estate VRS (non-diesel obv' ).
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:07 AM
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JL

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David Yu will be along shortly to tell you to get the Volvo XC90 V8, and he could well be right. The Allroad is nice as well. Maybe some sort of E-Class or 5-Series Touring?
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:09 AM
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Delphi

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Dr.(tbc) Alex said... Skoda Octavia Estate VRS (non-diesel obv' ).
The diesel has loads more torques, so will be better for towing his caravan.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:09 AM
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Mike RT4

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Subaru Impreza Wagon - AWD and lovely cars to live with (if you can get past the looks of the "Wagon"). Saloons are nicer, but you "seem" to be stuck in the mind-set of "needing" something bigger.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:12 AM
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_Mick_N

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I'd want more than 1400kg's to tow a caravan..
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:13 AM
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Jobbo

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Depends how old the X5 is - they changed to the 6sp box which is shared with my car around 2004 with the facelift. You'll be pleased to know the Midlands ZF dealer told me they seem to be less reliable in 4wd applications, so perhaps worth avoiding  Prior to that the pre-facelift cars had the ZF 5HP24 which was in my old 540i Touring, and which was fine at 162k miles when I sold it (and still fine at 189k when the head gaskets blew, apparently). I did change the oil a couple of times. However, IIRC Sundayjumper had problems with this box in his X5 4.4 so they're not immune to problems.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:16 AM
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David_Yu

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JL said... David Yu will be along shortly to tell you to get the Volvo XC90 V8, and he could well be right. The Allroad is nice as well.
Funnily enough, I've owned both. The Audi was nicer to drive, but the 2.7Ts are getting on a bit now. Should be a lot less thirsty than a 4.4 X5 though, although we seldom got above 19mpg in ours on average. Decently quick (even I never got round to that remap), probably the best riding Audi of recent times. Air suspension does go wrong though and it's damn near £1k a corner to get it sorted (usually one air spring fails by itself). However the cost saving over an XC90 V8 will pay for quite a few replacement air springs...
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:20 AM
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p7ulg

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Daddydadbo said... Next summer my Wife is likely to start teaching in the village school. I work 5 minutes walk from our house already and that will make two cars a bit silly.
Having two or more cars at one time often is, but it's what we do
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:26 AM
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Daddydadbo

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Mike Rainbird said... Subaru Impreza Wagon - AWD and lovely cars to live with (if you can get past the looks of the "Wagon"). Saloons are nicer, but you "seem" to be stuck in the mind-set of "needing" something bigger.
It is handy for towing and fitting kids and bikes and trikes etc in. Also handy for putting my bike in when doing triathlons. The XC90 V8 does appeal but they are probably more than I want to spend tbh. The CRV makes the interior of the 95 estate seem small. Wonder how good a Passat R36 is?? 
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:26 AM
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Sundayjumper

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Jobbo said... However, IIRC Sundayjumper had problems with this box in his X5 4.4 so they're not immune to problems.
Correct, mine was only just over 100k miles and the gearbox was about to let go. Juddering during changes and sometimes losing reverse gear. If you read up on the X5 forums you'll see gearbox failures are extremely common. I definitely would not buy one that was still on its original un-rebuilt gearbox as it *will* fail. That's why they're so cheap  Nice to drive though, surprisingly nippy for their size and I averaged 20mpg commuting which I thought was OK for that kind of car. It'd just about top 25mpg on a steady motorway run. If one turned up with a rebuilt and warranteed gearbox, and most of the rear suspension recently replaced (they get through bushes & ball joints fairly quickly) then it could be worth considering.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:28 AM
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JL

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Do they ever come with manual 'boxes? I still shake my head in bewilderment that in this day and age, they are unable to make a reliable slush-box.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:29 AM
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Sundayjumper

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Daddydadbo said... Wonder how good a Passat R36 is??
No idea about the R36 but we have a 56-reg 2.0TDi Passat estate now and I'm quite impressed with it. Loads of space, feels well built, and easily does 60mpg on the motorway.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:32 AM
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JL

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My dad's best mate has a 3.6 Passat - not sure if the newest ones are still called R36? Anyway, exactly as you'd expect - rather lovely but buy shares in BP first.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:33 AM
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DeskJockey

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Keep it Swedish and go for an XC70 like this (warning: evonomics at play)!
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:36 AM
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Marv

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Ford Mondeo ST Estate.... I mean Ford Focus ST Estate 
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:37 AM
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_Mick_N

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Sundayjumper said... No idea about the R36 but we have a 56-reg 2.0TDi Passat estate now and I'm quite impressed with it. Loads of space, feels well built, and easily does 60mpg on the motorway.
I found the Passat one of the most uncomfortable cars I've even driven, even the later version didn't seem any better. Couldn't quite put my finger on why, seats were too soft which didn't help. Even the 4x4 jacked up version was just as bad. V8 Allroad ?
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:40 AM
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Marv said... Ford Mondeo ST Estate.... I mean Ford Focus ST Estate

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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:43 AM
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Daddydadbo

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The XC70 T6 at £32k is a bit steep. Don't really want to be going much over £10k. We will probably only do 6k a year so mpg not so important. If I go petrol should get a bargain as everyone seem to want diseasels atm. 
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Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 10:45 AM
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Alex_

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duncs500 said... Marv said... Ford Mondeo ST Estate.... I mean Ford Focus ST Estate
beat me to it 
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