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Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 at 10:38 PM
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TwinTurbot
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Obama administration has approved black boxes to be fitted to all new cars and light trucks produced in America by September 2014 Article
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Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 at 11:24 PM
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Orange Cola
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To be brutally honest it would good idea in this country, especially if they linked them to insurance companies and things like "does the driver have the lights turned on when using the car at 11pm" etc. From a purist point of view I hope they can be removed.
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Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 at 11:38 PM
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JustMax
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Orange Cola said... From a purist point of view I hope they can be removed.
"Failure to adhere to court orders or even having the EDR installed in a vehicle would result in civil penalties against American citizens." 
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 at 12:03 AM
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Mito Man
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I reckon he only put them in cars because its called a black box and he is black.
It's like he didn't do anything great in his presidency to be remembered for. We've had previous guys start wars in the Middle East, go to the moon and what not but Obama was like "yo dawg, im'ma get me some of those black boxes. Every time people talk about cars they will talk of the black boxes by the black president and I will never be fogotten dawg"
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 at 12:34 AM
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Focus69
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Mito Man said... I reckon he only put them in cars because its called a black box and he is black.
It's like he didn't do anything great in his presidency to be remembered for. We've had previous guys start wars in the Middle East, go to the moon and what not but Obama was like "yo dawg, im'ma get me some of those black boxes. Every time people talk about cars they will talk of the black boxes by the black president and I will never be fogotten dawg"
Will you ever mature???
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 at 9:45 AM
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David_Yu
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Yep, loads of cars already have them and they have pulled logs to help prosecute before (although mainly in the US?). And EU are about to put through legislation prohibiting the disabling of ESP/TC which will spoil all our fun. What with Mercedes, BMW and others already developing robocars capable of driving themselves, we really are rapidly approaching the end of fun, performance motoring; a lot sooner than most of you think. I've been saying this for a few years now, but basically, stretch to the most extreme performance car you can afford (or not) and enjoy it whilst you can.
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 at 9:48 AM
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JL
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You have been saying this forever David, but things still seem to rumble on same as ever.
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 at 10:11 AM
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Eric Pisch
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JL said... You have been saying this forever David, but things still seem to rumble on same as ever.
only because the EU is such a slow leviathan, even if they do nothing oil costs over the next 20 years will pretty much kill of V8 hooning
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 at 10:11 AM
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David_Yu
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JL said... You have been saying this forever David, but things still seem to rumble on same as ever.
So said the dinosaurs for a couple of hundred million years... 
I'm wondering if a projected side effect of the massive cuts in traffic policing is allowing the rise in road deaths (which has already started after reaching an all-time low a few years ago) to justify blanket enforcement of lower speed limits? All in the name of health and safety, and aided generously by the eco-argument. The sad thing is, I can't think of a single rational argument against our automated transportation future. I just don't want it to happen for purely selfish reasons.
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 at 10:22 AM
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duncs500
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David_Yu said... I've been saying this for a few years now, but basically, stretch to the most extreme performance car you can afford (or not) and enjoy it whilst you can.
Shirley there will always be the cars made before all these blanket rules? They will be considered classics and will therefore be exempt.
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 at 10:30 AM
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David_Yu
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duncs500 said... David_Yu said... I've been saying this for a few years now, but basically, stretch to the most extreme performance car you can afford (or not) and enjoy it whilst you can.
Shirley there will always be the cars made before all these blanket rules? They will be considered classics and will therefore be exempt.
Yeah but there will come a time when all traffic, at least on motorways, run in automated "trains". At that point, you can't have manually driven cars mixing in with them. When the stats for manually driven vs automated accidents are revealed, there will swiftly follow a blanket ban on human-operated cars. Track days might be the last refuge, but the nimbies are already bleating about those as they are...
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Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 at 10:33 AM
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Eric Pisch
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duncs500 said... David_Yu said... I've been saying this for a few years now, but basically, stretch to the most extreme performance car you can afford (or not) and enjoy it whilst you can.
Shirley there will always be the cars made before all these blanket rules? They will be considered classics and will therefore be exempt.
I suspect they will program "hidden modes" to disable them or allow the ECU to be programmable to have it turned off Most ABS systems can be killed by pulling the fuse so probably ESP can as well
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