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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 8:31 AM
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Marv

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Which means you have to take off body parts to replace a headlight bulb. Yes a headlight bulb has blown on the Golf, which means I'll be taking the front bumper off at the weekend to replace it. An hour-or-so work in the cold. Whereas with the rear light cluster, it's less than a minute to change any of the bulbs. Bloody VWs, blowing headlight bulbs. It'd never happen to a Honda 
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 9:20 AM
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Eastwu

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I just had to change a headlight, tail light and rear number plate bulbs on my Focus. Same problem, rear of the car took about 5 minutes, headlight took an hour. Granted, I'm not the most mechanically adept of folk, but surely ease of maintenance must feature on a car designer's To Do list somewhere?
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 9:24 AM
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Orange Cola

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Marv: won't it be easier to take it to Halfords and get them to do it for £5 or whatever it is they charge? The Beetle was similarly bad, but it was easier to replace the entire headlamp cluster than it was to change a bulb.
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 9:27 AM
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Jobbo

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Orange Cola said... The Beetle was similarly bad, but it was easier to replace the entire headlamp cluster than it was to change a bulb.
The new Beetle? I remember replacing an indicator bulb in my ex-wife's; bit awkward but didn't require bumper removal or anything like that.
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 10:55 AM
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SimonB

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The 5 series you dont have to remove anything body wise but you need small hands to get to it. Last time one went I paid halfords man to do it while I watched - he said it was simple. This time I had a go and it wasnt as simple as I thought.
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 11:22 AM
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NotoriousREV

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Marv said... Which means you have to take off body parts to replace a headlight bulb. Yes a headlight bulb has blown on the Golf, which means I'll be taking the front bumper off at the weekend to replace it. An hour-or-so work in the cold. Whereas with the rear light cluster, it's less than a minute to change any of the bulbs. Bloody VWs, blowing headlight bulbs. It'd never happen to a Honda
10 minutes, tops.
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 11:36 AM
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Barry

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You can mock but in seven years I think I replaced one bulb on the ITR Ironically, the Octavia has a simple open back to the front lamps, I bet its quite a quick job. The lights are dreadful anyway so I probably wouldn't notice if a bulb did go..
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 12:55 PM
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speedingfine

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Bumper off? You sure? VW just don't do that sort of thing surely? Nic will be along to mock you if they don't....
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 1:18 PM
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pilouil

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On my C3 you need to remove the grille and the bumper
Definitely bad design
By the way regarding safety I think it's terrible - since you cannot change a bulb on the side of the road, so if it blows you will drive for a while with a missing light, therefore such crap design should be forbidden or at least punished in the safety ratings.
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 1:18 PM
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hardboiledPhil

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Barry said... You can mock but in seven years I think I replaced one bulb on the ITR
I didn't even have to change one. One stopped working but a quick "bash" it fixed itself 
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 2:11 PM
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andybond

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Dr.(tbc) Alex said... Could be worse: French quirkiness?
Thats bollocks that is. You can get to them from the inspection hatch - even massive hands Bond managed. I did swear and moan in the moaning forum though ..
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 4:57 PM
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Barry

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hardboiledPhil said... Barry said... You can mock but in seven years I think I replaced one bulb on the ITR
I didn't even have to change one. One stopped working but a quick "bash" it fixed itself 
I recall having a tail light go as the seal failed and let condensation creep in. Bah, bloody Japanese cars eh.
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 5:04 PM
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McSwede

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I thought this was going to be a thread regarding Audi and there awful, chavvy drl's. Nevermind eh? My 3 series is a PITA to change bulbs so just get the dealer to do it especially now it's cold and dirty. 
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 6:37 PM
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Marv

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NotoriousREV said... Marv said... Which means you have to take off body parts to replace a headlight bulb. Yes a headlight bulb has blown on the Golf, which means I'll be taking the front bumper off at the weekend to replace it. An hour-or-so work in the cold. Whereas with the rear light cluster, it's less than a minute to change any of the bulbs. Bloody VWs, blowing headlight bulbs. It'd never happen to a Honda
10 minutes, tops.
That's a 1.6 16V. There's less space with my TDI engine. Can't get the covers open wide like in them pictures, with my car. Taking the battery out may be an option though. Fvck taking it to Halfords too. I quite like the way Porsche designed the headlights on the Boxster & 996 - turn a couple of levers and the whole cluster comes out, IIRC. Why don't all manufacturers who have to work to a confined space do the same?
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 6:55 PM
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carolineccb1

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Apparently, there's a way of flipping the lights on the Z so that you don't need beam benders. They recommend that you take it to a dealers to do it. From what I've read, it's really fiddly to do yourself. A good idea, but bloody pointless if its not easy to make use of. Makes me think of this; Bloody Stupid Johnson
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 6:59 PM
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NotoriousREV

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Marv said... NotoriousREV said... Marv said... Which means you have to take off body parts to replace a headlight bulb. Yes a headlight bulb has blown on the Golf, which means I'll be taking the front bumper off at the weekend to replace it. An hour-or-so work in the cold. Whereas with the rear light cluster, it's less than a minute to change any of the bulbs. Bloody VWs, blowing headlight bulbs. It'd never happen to a Honda
10 minutes, tops.
That's a 1.6 16V. There's less space with my TDI engine. Can't get the covers open wide like in them pictures, with my car. Taking the battery out may be an option though. Fvck taking it to Halfords too. I quite like the way Porsche designed the headlights on the Boxster & 996 - turn a couple of levers and the whole cluster comes out, IIRC. Why don't all manufacturers who have to work to a confined space do the same?
Sucks to be you.
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 7:05 PM
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Marv

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NotoriousREV said... Marv said... NotoriousREV said... Marv said... Which means you have to take off body parts to replace a headlight bulb. Yes a headlight bulb has blown on the Golf, which means I'll be taking the front bumper off at the weekend to replace it. An hour-or-so work in the cold. Whereas with the rear light cluster, it's less than a minute to change any of the bulbs. Bloody VWs, blowing headlight bulbs. It'd never happen to a Honda
10 minutes, tops.
That's a 1.6 16V. There's less space with my TDI engine. Can't get the covers open wide like in them pictures, with my car. Taking the battery out may be an option though. Fvck taking it to Halfords too. I quite like the way Porsche designed the headlights on the Boxster & 996 - turn a couple of levers and the whole cluster comes out, IIRC. Why don't all manufacturers who have to work to a confined space do the same?
Sucks to be you.
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 10:20 PM
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integrale_evo

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carolineccb1 said... Apparently, there's a way of flipping the lights on the Z so that you don't need beam benders. They recommend that you take it to a dealers to do it. From what I've read, it's really fiddly to do yourself. A good idea, but bloody pointless if its not easy to make use of. Makes me think of this; Bloody Stupid Johnson
You've been able to for years on BMWs with projector type lights. On e30s from 1987 onwards you loosen 3 screws and rotate the dip beam part within the headliggt housing. I did mine in a car park just before the ferry. E36 are the same ( but noone seems to know about it ) and I would hope later cars have similar. Only car I've had where bulb changes are tricky was the lancia, to get the dip beam out you had to remove the battery, and the battery clamp bolt was buried under the back of the headlight. Excuseable though as the car wasn't really ever designed for that much stuff in the engine bay
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Posted on Friday, December 7, 2012 at 11:16 PM
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scotta

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What age of golf? On my Mk5 GTI they took about two mins to change. On the wife's Audi however it's a bastard of a job!
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