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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 9:43 AM
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Alex88

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In this weather are one of the best inventions evar. Is it correct that Ford have some sort of patent on this technology? I've read this before on several forums and would probably explain why people on my road with newer cars are sometimes scraping away and de-icing their screens in the morning. If so this is a feature I will miss greatly on my next car.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 9:46 AM
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Dr.(tbc) Alex

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One of the best things about my first car: Ford Focus . However, I did at times keep staring at them and wondered how they managed it?
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 9:52 AM
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Robby1977

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Alex88 said... In this weather are one of the best inventions evar. Is it correct that Ford have some sort of patent on this technology? I've read this before on several forums and would probably explain why people on my road with newer cars are sometimes scraping away and de-icing their screens in the morning. If so this is a feature I will miss greatly on my next car.
I believe they do yes. Volvo don't patent any of their safety innovations for the reason that doing so could cost lives. It could be argued this is a safety invention; that helps stop people driving off with inadequately cleared screens. They should allow others to use the idea, even if on on licence.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 10:07 AM
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p7ulg

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Alex88 said... In this weather are one of the best inventions evar. Is it correct that Ford have some sort of patent on this technology? I've read this before on several forums and would probably explain why people on my road with newer cars are sometimes scraping away and de-icing their screens in the morning. If so this is a feature I will miss greatly on my next car.
Totally agree, all cars should have them. Surely if Ford have the patent they could make a killing on licensing it to other manufacturers.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM
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Zonda_

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I read someone's post on here saying it's only a limited patent or something and that it expires soon so other manufacturers can start fitting them.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 10:37 AM
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Alex88

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Can a patent not be renewed? I agree with the comment about it being a safety feature. I've also seen people drive off with poorly cleared screens due to impatience.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 10:49 AM
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8Ball

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A heated screen may be a convenience, but I'm not sure it's really a safety feature.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM
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Alex88

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I think it is. People would rather press a button and have the work done for them rather than scrap away in the cold. At least with the screen all of the ice/frost is definitely gone rather than just doing what you think is necessary.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 11:20 AM
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integrale_evo

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I don't like the lines, especially at night, I found them really distracting. Id rather spend a minute scraping the screen and side windows and have perfectly clear line free glass.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 11:24 AM
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Alex88

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I thought they'd be a pain when I first noticed them but now they don't bother me at all. Sometimes I see them in certain light but it's not often at all.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 11:40 AM
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mik

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Yes to patent. Mrs mik's Disco3 has one - they are superb imho.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 1:28 PM
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Robby1977

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8Ball said... A heated screen may be a convenience, but I'm not sure it's really a safety feature.
I believe it is. Unlike my recent ST my work Kangoo van takes a bloody lifetime to clear its screen, even after scraping off ice. On a few occasions I have got impatient and set off hoping I had enough visibility, only to pull up metres later realising I have nothing of the sort. Shouldn't happen, but people do it.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM
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Mito Man

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My favourite invention is the BMW thing where you press a remote button 15 minutes before you drive and it heats up the car and deices itself. The Ford thing is pretty cool but the lines annoy me. Then you have the most pointless invention where on some cars just the area round then wipers gets heated up which does fvck all.
I just put on a ceramic treatment this time of year on all my glass which stops any ice forming in the first place. *awaits forum argument on whether or not one should use a kettle of hot water to deice the car while some members swear by it and others throw a hissy fit over the risk of cracking the original windscreen*
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 1:38 PM
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John

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Mito Man said... I just put on a ceramic treatment this time of year on all my glass which stops any ice forming in the first place.
Wossat then?
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 1:54 PM
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CCC4U

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My wifes car has them and I find it makes my eyes sore after a short while . Also every now and then I find I focus on them rather than through them, bit like one of those seeing eye puzzles.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 2:26 PM
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GraniteV8

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Our Focus has one too and I completely agree they are fantastic ! As for it being a safety feature, not in any wY shape or form. It's an easy way of clearing the screen and that is all. It let's you be lazy in the morning, if a car doesn't have one then don't be lazy or silly enough to drive off till you know you have good visibility. In really icy spells I switch the front and rear screens on but still need to scrape the side windows, just like everyone else. The Landy gets the Eberspacher fire up 15 minutes before departing and it is toasty warm and ice free. Too bad it is currently borked mind you. Dave!
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 2:28 PM
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mik

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John said... Mito Man said... I just put on a ceramic treatment this time of year on all my glass which stops any ice forming in the first place.
Wossat then?
It's the glass equivalent of the electric supercharger/ fuel line magnets.
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 2:32 PM
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mik

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GraniteV8 said... The Landy gets the Eberspacher fire up 15 minutes before departing and it is toasty warm and ice free. Too bad it is currently borked mind you.
Mrs mik's disco has the fuel burning heater, with a £40 timer as opposed to the £200 "plipper" activation. Doesn't operate the fans (Disco 4 has that option) to demist, but it is obvioulsly toastie warm the second you start the engine. Superb piece of kit , although it is utterly 5hit at clearing the car when your missus can't manage to remember to perform a single-button-press to activate the b4stard device at any point 24hrs before you want the feggin thing to go off. 
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Posted on Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM
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We have the fuel burning heater in ours too. Unsurprisingly, it doesn't work. Thanks to the geniuses at Land Rover, after 3 attempts to light, it needs a software reset at the dealer before it'll attempt it again. So even if I cleaned up the igniter thingy it still wouldn't light. 
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