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...with someone who has had long term ownership of a 997 GT2 (preferably a track user)? Hopefully someone that Mr Yu knows owns one?

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Thinking of buying one?

Either that or he wants a rather specific penpal!

Orange Cola said...

Thinking of buying one?

Not without in-depth discussions with an owner - I've done as much t'internet research as I can, but now need to speak to someone that has owned one long term.

The only way I could afford it is to part with the Escort and the M3, and I don't want it to be a decision I end up regretting (laugh as much as you like, but the Escort is hard to beat in the thrill stakes). I tried the GTR (not my cup of tea), the GT3 RS is nice, but not quite fast enough (and just as expensive as a GT2). I don't want to spend any more than something like this costs, so the GT2 is the only thing that has similar power and torque to weight that I am used to, that will also be a challenge to learn to drive fast. I'm in my mid 40s, so this will be my last hurrah, so it will need to be a keeper (I tend to own the cars I like for at least a decade :lol: ).

I don't want a coffin on wheels (aka Caterfield etc), Ferraris are too fragile and expensive to run for what I want to use it for (plus I just don't like them or their image).

A GT2 is the ONLY car I "think" I could part with the Cossie for. If they're not what I "thought", then I will keep the Escort and perhaps fit a sequential box :lol:.

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Blimey Mike I'm amazed to hear you would sell the Cosworth even for something as fantastic as a GT2 - would something off-the-peg do it for you these days?

JL said...

Blimey Mike I'm amazed to hear you would sell the Cosworth even for something as fantastic as a GT2 - would something off-the-peg do it for you these days?

My thoughts too. Shirley even a Porker would need hundreds of hours of fiddling and adjustments here and there to get it to Rainbird Spec? ;)

JL said...

Blimey Mike I'm amazed to hear you would sell the Cosworth even for something as fantastic as a GT2 - would something off-the-peg do it for you these days?

I don't know, hence why I want to hook up with someone that does track-days with one, so I could at least feel what they're like (even if it is just from the passenger seat). Everyone who knows me and the car says it's a mistake, so this is why I have to be as sure as I possibly can. This will either get it out of my system, or reinforce the "need" for one.

I "thought" an Ultima would be the answer, but being fortunate enough to have a friend who knows Steve Smith (one of the main guys in the country that builds these as a business), I was able to pick his brains and realise that very few of them end up being as good as they should. As an example, the suspension is designed around the original 15" wheel from when it was first released and now that it has 18" wheels, the scrub radius is all wrong and the cars push-on terribly in slow speed corners and very few owners are willing to spend the money to have the suspension sorted (which would take a few K to sort out retrospectively), choosing looks over performance. The engines in tuned form also seem to suffer from regular meltdowns and the Porsche G50 'box doesn't like the huge torque that these engines can produce. I haven't got the inclination to re-engineer another car so that it is what it should be (or build one from scratch). The Porsche can still be improved with subtle tweaks (better quality suspension and light-weight carbon parts), but it is something that can be driven hard right from the start and can be modified as a gradual process :).

Updated November 22, 2012 at 4:31 PM

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There is a guy called Stu r on pistonheads who had/ has one which was a regular at the v-max events I think. He had a RUF at some point to.

Surely an ex cup car would be more your thing ?

Dave!

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GraniteV8 said...

There is a guy called Stu r on pistonheads who had/ has one which was a regular at the v-max events I think. He had a RUF at some point to.

Surely an ex cup car would be more your thing ?

Dave!

Is his RUF the red one? If so, I've spoken to him several times at the 'Ring - his son has a Yellow Bird :).

I wasn't aware that he hat a normal GT2.

I want something that I can drive to the 'Ring and back without feeling I've driven across America :lol:. I'm getting OLD :lol:.

Updated November 22, 2012 at 4:34 PM

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I can understand the appeal of a more powerful engine - but from what I see at track days a GT3 is quicker on a lap in spite of being outperformed by a GT2 on acceleration and straight line speed.
So you'd need a GT2 RS 8)
(it seems to make a real difference, whereas the difference between GT3 and GT3 RS is only marginal if it exists).

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Also HardboiledPhil on here has a friend with one as I remember his pictures on Facebook, that was at the Nurburgring aswell I think.

I will also require a drive.

Dave!

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Also the 996 GT3 RS is the best of the bunch.

This is law.

Dave!

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pilouil said...

I can understand the appeal of a more powerful engine - but from what I see at track days a GT3 is quicker on a lap in spite of being outperformed by a GT2 on acceleration and straight line speed.
So you'd need a GT2 RS 8)
(it seems to make a real difference, whereas the difference between GT3 and GT3 RS is only marginal if it exists).

I'd have to sell every car I had and take out a considerable amount of finance to own a GT2 RS :lol:. They're currently up at circa £200k second hand :shock:.

However, I could create my own RS version from the GT2 (Ohlins, carbon parts, Stage 1 DMS) ;).

The GT3's are so sorted, I think I'd prefer the challenge of a GT2 (or die trying :lol: ) ;).

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Worth asking the question on PCGB?

(Free to register - I was rarely out of the 944 section, so not sure how friendly the rest of the site is tbh)

I must be the only one who can totally understand wanting to get rid of the Cossie for a GT2. As special as the Cossie is, a GT2 that's had the LOLbird treatment could be on another level. Surely the 2wd rear engined turbot power is going to be a big challenge to master, and big challenges usually mean big rewards.

997 GT2s are handsome beasts as well.

Please do this and have a (pic heavy) thread about it Mike.8)

Oh, and where does the queue start for a p-ride?

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duncs500 said...

Oh, and where does the queue start for a p-ride?

Right behind me :lol:

That sounds like a seriously fun toy.

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duncs500 said...

I must be the only one who can totally understand wanting to get rid of the Cossie for a GT2. As special as the Cossie is, a GT2 that's had the LOLbird treatment could be on another level. Surely the 2wd rear engined turbot power is going to be a big challenge to master, and big challenges usually mean big rewards.

997 GT2s are handsome beasts as well.

Please do this and have a (pic heavy) thread about it Mike.8)

Oh, and where does the queue start for a p-ride?

I had a 515bhp / 1275kg rear wheel drive Cossie back in the day, and so I appreciate how much respect is required for these kind of cars :). I miss the challenge of keeping that thing in a straight line with it's skinny 235 tyres. The Porsche should feel sanitised by comparison with an extra 165kg and 325 tyres ;).

Plus it could end up being another business avenue on the carbon side :).

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Mike Rainbird said...

duncs500 said...

I must be the only one who can totally understand wanting to get rid of the Cossie for a GT2. As special as the Cossie is, a GT2 that's had the LOLbird treatment could be on another level. Surely the 2wd rear engined turbot power is going to be a big challenge to master, and big challenges usually mean big rewards.

997 GT2s are handsome beasts as well.

Please do this and have a (pic heavy) thread about it Mike.8)

Oh, and where does the queue start for a p-ride?

I had a 515bhp / 1275kg rear wheel drive Cossie back in the day, and so I appreciate how much respect is required for these kind of cars :). I miss the challenge of keeping that thing in a straight line with it's skinny 235 tyres. The Porsche should feel sanitised by comparison with an extra 165kg and 325 tyres ;).

Plus it could end up being another business avenue on the carbon side :).

That old Cossie sounds like a handful, but perhaps on the limit a bit more forgiving?... not that I'd know having not driven anything like either. Just that the layout generally points that way.:?:

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GT2 RS, yours for £170K
Not really cheap though :shock:

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GraniteV8 said...

Also HardboiledPhil on here has a friend with one as I remember his pictures on Facebook, that was at the Nurburgring aswell I think.

I've driven the one belonging to Stefan1 (on Pistonheads) a couple of times. He's very knowledgeable about the vast majority of modern Porsches but has owned one since they came out. As a road car it's probably my favourite I've ever driven.

Updated November 22, 2012 at 5:15 PM

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