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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 7:20 PM
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Alan

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Our current family wagon is a Volvo XC90, just over 1 year old. For some unknown reason the original, and mainly used, key has suddenly stopped working, and there is no response at all in turning it in the ignition. The spare key works fine, and strangely, occasionally the main key does work after 5 mins or so. I assume it is something to do with the immobiliser in the key fob, but has anyone any idea of how this happens, and any solution, except for I suspect a new key ?
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 7:28 PM
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carlos

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Shirley a warranty issue Al, just take it back.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 7:30 PM
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John

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Covered by warranty surely? Or are you just curious as to why it isn't working?
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 7:34 PM
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Alan

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John said... Covered by warranty surely? Or are you just curious as to why it isn't working?
This, I know warranty will cover it, and I'm not particularly worried about it, apart from the hassle. It's just something I haven't encountered before, and am a bit bemused by how it has happened. Is there something you do, touch, encounter that can deprogram it ?
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 7:38 PM
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mcmark71

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I'll ask it. Battery
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 7:40 PM
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pilouil

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Alan said... John said... Covered by warranty surely? Or are you just curious as to why it isn't working?
This, I know warranty will cover it, and I'm not particularly worried about it, apart from the hassle. It's just something I haven't encountered before, and am a bit bemused by how it has happened. Is there something you do, touch, encounter that can deprogram it ?
I had a similar problem with my old Citroen - there is apparently a transponder in the key that releases the immobiliser; it's not a matter of programming but a mistery of electronics... the only way to solve the problem was actually to change the key (which also implied reprogramming the other key).
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 7:43 PM
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mik

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Anyone dropped the key onto a hard surface? Can cause issues with the transponder.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 7:46 PM
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Alan

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Thanks for the replies, definitely sounds like the transponder which I must admit I didn't know about before. With 3 kids and 2 dogs, anything could have happened without us knowing !.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 7:46 PM
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Diesel Taxi

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I have heard of this problem before. Did you leave it in a bowl with lots of other car keys?
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 8:23 PM
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Alan

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Diesel Taxi said... I have heard of this problem before. Did you leave it in a bowl with lots of other car keys?
not that I know of, but we were in a hotel last week and left it at the desk, so maybe
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 8:32 PM
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mik

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Joke ====> <=== Alan 
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 9:02 PM
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Alan

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mik said... Joke ====> <=== Alan
oh yeah  
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 9:14 PM
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damo.666

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I got a problem with my car key, it only seems to work on a ten year old ford puma.... no matter what I do, it just won't open anything else!!:-)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 9:18 PM
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Orange Cola

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Works after five minutes? Wonder if the key is supposed to charge while it's in the ignition barrel...
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 9:23 PM
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carlos

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Porsche and I believe the newer beemer keys do this.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 10:41 PM
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mik

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Orange Cola said... Works after five minutes? Wonder if the key is supposed to charge while it's in the ignition barrel...
Wifey's disco3 does this. Smart idea 
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Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM
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ilmostro

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Alan said... Thanks for the replies, definitely sounds like the transponder which I must admit I didn't know about before. With 3 kids and 2 dogs, anything could have happened without us knowing !.
I'm assuming here that it's a key in the traditional fashion? : Try holding the key that works near the ignition barrel, and use the bad key to turn. I would guess the transponder in the good key should deactivate the immobilizer, whilst the bad key turns the barrel. If it consistently works, surely proves it's a duff transponder?
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Posted on Thursday, November 8, 2012 at 12:09 AM
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Swervin_Mervin

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My guess is it's a fob with no charge in it as a result of not being used.
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Posted on Thursday, November 8, 2012 at 7:08 AM
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Jimmy Choo

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carlos said... Porsche and I believe the newer beemer keys do this.
My e46 does it.
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Posted on Thursday, November 8, 2012 at 7:10 AM
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JL

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mcmark71 said... I'll ask it. Battery
Beat me to it.
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