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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM
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Rich B
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And there goes the very last shred of Vauxhalls dignity. Can they really only manage late copycat models now? I think the last interesting or original thing they did was the Zafira's flex 7 seats.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM
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PugRallye2
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The best thing that Vauxhall could ever do, is drop the name and the griffin badge and "re-brand" as Opel and use the Opel logos.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM
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Eric Pisch
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speedingfine said... Adam
Cool! 
i must be missing something, thats almost as crap as the toyota yaris adverts ...
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM
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Eric Pisch
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PugRallye2 said... The best thing that Vauxhall could ever do, is drop the name and the griffin badge and "re-brand" as Opel and use the Opel logos.
this and stick holden back on the V8s 
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 7:53 PM
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caneswell
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Why does anyone end up buying a Vauxhall, whilst alternatives exist?
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 7:55 PM
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8Ball
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 Not cool.
8Ball, aka Adam.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 7:58 PM
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speedingfine
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Give 'em credit, the VXR brand is pretty good. Could this be another Griff Rhys Jones in pants style advertising faux pas?  Edit to agree with Pug - I've got no real problem with Vauxhall's range at the mo. But it's not the most inspiring.
Updated May 8, 2012 at 8:06 PM
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 8:01 PM
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PugRallye2
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caneswell said... Why does anyone end up buying a Vauxhall, whilst alternatives exist?
Apparently the current Astra is a very good car. But the brand carries such a stigma...
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 8:52 PM
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mattcambs
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caneswell said... Why does anyone end up buying a Vauxhall, whilst alternatives exist?
This.
I've always thought of Vauxhall as a slightly more upmarket Ford, but somehow more crap.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 8:56 PM
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Foz
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Should have called it Dave, no offence to the forum daves BTW 
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:08 PM
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Orange Cola
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mattcambs said... caneswell said... Why does anyone end up buying a Vauxhall, whilst alternatives exist?
This.
I've always thought of Vauxhall as a slightly more upmarket Ford, but somehow more crap.
I've never understood this argument. Vauxhall have never built a successful race car or supercar in the way Ford have. Nor do Vauxhall cover such a wide variety of Motorsport and market sectors. It's just stemmed from a vague likeness between the old saloon cars which happened to be if a similar price in certain areas but that's about it, they're not comparable brands. VXR is only good because of the Holden connection. It doesn't matter what you do to a Corsa, at the end of all the hard work you're still lift with a FWD sled that is a Coars-a. I think the inky reason oils buy them is because they're so cheap on finance/company car policies/leasing.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:08 PM
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mattcambs
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Foz said... Should have called it Dave, no offence to the forum daves BTW
Isn't nearly everyone on here called Dave. And those that aren't, Mike or Simon?
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:11 PM
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mattcambs
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Orange Cola said... mattcambs said... caneswell said... Why does anyone end up buying a Vauxhall, whilst alternatives exist?
This.
I've always thought of Vauxhall as a slightly more upmarket Ford, but somehow more crap.
I've never understood this argument. Vauxhall have never built a successful race car or supercar in the way Ford have. Nor do Vauxhall cover such a wide variety of Motorsport and market sectors. It's just stemmed from a vague likeness between the old saloon cars which happened to be if a similar price in certain areas but that's about it, they're not comparable brands. VXR is only good because of the Holden connection. It doesn't matter what you do to a Corsa, at the end of all the hard work you're still lift with a FWD sled that is a Coars-a. I think the inky reason oils buy them is because they're so cheap on finance/company car policies/leasing.
Ok put it another way - Ford do well made, fun to drive crap cars. Vauxhall do badly made, duff handling, good cars.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:33 PM
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caneswell
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mattcambs said... Orange Cola said... mattcambs said... caneswell said... Why does anyone end up buying a Vauxhall, whilst alternatives exist?
This.
I've always thought of Vauxhall as a slightly more upmarket Ford, but somehow more crap.
I've never understood this argument. Vauxhall have never built a successful race car or supercar in the way Ford have. Nor do Vauxhall cover such a wide variety of Motorsport and market sectors. It's just stemmed from a vague likeness between the old saloon cars which happened to be if a similar price in certain areas but that's about it, they're not comparable brands. VXR is only good because of the Holden connection. It doesn't matter what you do to a Corsa, at the end of all the hard work you're still lift with a FWD sled that is a Coars-a. I think the inky reason oils buy them is because they're so cheap on finance/company car policies/leasing.
Ok put it another way - Ford do well made, fun to drive crap cars. Vauxhall do badly made, duff handling, cars.
EFA
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:44 PM
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mik
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Caneswell does not want to own Adam Vauxhall.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM
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Mito Man
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Could be a good car if it's based on the 500 chassis.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM
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Orange Cola
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Why would it be based on the 500 chassis, does GM now own a share in Fiat?
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Posted on Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:53 PM
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securitycheck
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mattcambs said... Foz said... Should have called it Dave, no offence to the forum daves BTW
Isn't nearly everyone on here called Dave. And those that aren't, Mike or Simon?
Except for the Matt's.  For the record, I am neither of the above.
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