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As others have said it's probably due to to much toe in.
I never had any problem with scrubbing running 1mm toe and 2deg neg camber at the rear. I know a number of people running 0 toe or slight toe out for very reactive steering.
Not something I'd do but it isn't unheard of.

Are they Kumhos by any chance? I have had two set of Kumhos wear badly on the inside edge and there was nothing wrong with either car, the other tyre brands did wear a bit more heavily but the Kumhos were awful (one even deformed).

Carl.

Zonda_ said...

All standard as far as I know although Mark BT_52 thought the ride height looked high.

Looks high? Makes the argument for Toe out/in even bigger then. My understanding of suspension with struts and springs is that when more weight (cornering Force) is place on the corner the wheel goes slightly into negative camber to keep the tyre flat when cornering.

A gent I used to know had something similar, we inspected all sorts on the car and were at a loss, everything seemed OK, until I followed him down the road - hey presto... more crabbing than a day at the seaside!

He didn't believe me and only filming it did he understand he had an issue bigger than just toe-out.

1500 miles to kill a pair of tyres is pretty severe!

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Dr Carlos said...

Are they Kumhos by any chance? I have had two set of Kumhos wear badly on the inside edge and there was nothing wrong with either car, the other tyre brands did wear a bit more heavily but the Kumhos were awful (one even deformed).

Carl.

Toyo T1-R, will get it looked at tomorrow.

T1-R's are soft but I had a set on a 205GTI I ragged senseless and had 14k out of them.

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They are soft but that wouldn't explain the very uneven wear rate on either side of the car, something is causing the passenger side to scrub.

Zonda_ said...

Just noticed yesterday that after approx 1500 miles the inside edges of the rear tyres are bald :shock: what's causinf this, I'm assuming camber settings? Anyone have an idea of what it will cost to have it setup correctly, gonna have to travel to have it done to cos there's nowhere local that does camber etc. :(

Ouch! Sounds like something is possibly broken to cause such a mis-alignment. Worth getting up on a ramp somewhere local just to see if anything obvious is amiss?

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I'd say they are VERY Adjustable...

http://opc.mr2oc.com/online_parts_catalog/Handling/rear%20suspension.GIF

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Zonda_ said...

All standard as far as I know although Mark BT_52 thought the ride height looked high.

Is the rear suspension system McPherson strut or SLA Independant? SLA riding high would cause the issue you're having however a McPherson strut system would also cause in increase in favourable camber if it were riding high too.

Is there an MR2 specialist near you? They would be able to spot modifications instantly.

There's a lot of guess work and "I once..." going on in this thread :lol:

Orange Cola said...

There's a lot of guess work and "I once..." going on in this thread :lol:

Can you just get the car round to Beany and he'll be able to provide us with a full optical diagnosis?

I bet it's rusty suspension arms that's the problem. Replacing the windscreen should cure it.

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NotoriousREV said...

I bet it's rusty suspension arms that's the problem. Replacing the windscreen should cure it.

And risk the resale value in the process? Are you mental?

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Just fold the seats down.

Well, the rear toe in was way out of tollerance and the front tracking was out to despite the supplying garage telling me they'd done it before I picked it up. The feeling going over large bumps that I assumed was normal as the MX-5 did the same thing has gone and the car just feels more sure footed. £50 well spent.

£50 for a 4-wheel geo check/adjust? :?

Or tracking only?

Tracking and geo check.

RobYob said...

As others have said it's probably due to to much toe in.
I never had any problem with scrubbing running 1mm toe and 2deg neg camber at the rear. I know a number of people running 0 toe or slight toe out for very reactive steering.
Not something I'd do but it isn't unheard of.

As Mik / Caneswell etc pointed out, you mean toe-out ;). Toe-in does the outside edges :p.

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Well I don't know! All I know is that it's handling better than it was before so I'm happy.

Mike Rainbird said...

RobYob said...

As others have said it's probably due to to much toe in.
I never had any problem with scrubbing running 1mm toe and 2deg neg camber at the rear. I know a number of people running 0 toe or slight toe out for very reactive steering.
Not something I'd do but it isn't unheard of.

As Mik / Caneswell etc pointed out, you mean toe-out ;). Toe-in does the outside edges :p.

I suggested it was too much toe-in actually. I reckon you could still wear the inner edge with a combination of toe-in and enough camber. I think he'd notice if it was toe-out at the rear by the fact that he kept spinning on most corners!

Sounds like I was correct

Updated May 8, 2012 at 6:08 PM

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