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After the untimely death of my Saab 9-3 Aero Wagon. I need something new, 3 kids and a dog dictate it needs to have the element of practicality and after the purchase of the Saab with the larger 2.8 V6 turbo which made it a bit special I don't want a 4 pot.
Budget up to 8k
tax and fuel consumption not a concern as my 3 day commute is about 25 miles
Insurance shouldn't be much of a concern either
5 seats
Estate
Petrol
Must be reasonably reliable
Prefer RWD or 4WD

So the list so far is:

Mercedes C32 AMG
Saab 9-3 Turbo-X
330i Touring
Legacy 3.0R Spec B

The AMG is fairly easy to find and I've seen a well cared for car with history, low miles and a pulley/map upgrade to 400bhp.
The 9-3 is a rare beast, especially with a manual box (Saab autoboxes are power sapping crap) and only 2 saloons are for sale in the UK currently so finding an estate with history (needed for Haldex and eLSD service issues) might prove hard.
The BMW is a bit weedy power wise compared to the Merc and Saab and a 335i Touring is way out of budget.
Legacy is much the same as the BMW but it's probably the most reliable and newest choice.
I guess what I'm saying is talk me out of the AMG.

Carl.

I'd be a bit wary of the frilly bodies on that era Merc C-class. That's enough to put me off on its own, but the interiors aren't that nice either... so:

Skoda Superb 3.6 4motion. There don't appear to be any estates on the market currently but they have the engine from the Passat R36 and are rather overlooked.

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Jobbo said...

I'd be a bit wary of the frilly bodies on that era Merc C-class. That's enough to put me off on its own, but the interiors aren't that nice either... so:

Skoda Superb 3.6 4motion. There don't appear to be any estates on the market currently but they have the engine from the Passat R36 and are rather overlooked.

WRT the AMG I've seen a few rusty ones to be sure and the only car I was willing to see was nicely rust free, the rest I will leave I think.

I haven't seen the Skoda, I had a bad experience with the Fabia vRS I had but I would hope that the Superb will be a more solid construction. 3.6 litres and 4x4 sounds nice too, i'll do some reading on that one, but it maybe like the Saab Turbo-x, the proverbial needle in the haystack.

Carl.

Audi S4 Avant? 344bhp, 0-60 in 5.8. Not too shabby.

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NotoriousREV said...

Audi S4 Avant? 344bhp, 0-60 in 5.8. Not too shabby.

Yes, you aren't wrong there, V8 too and they look to be a real performance bargain. I have read about some serious reliability issues concerning the timing chain guides and replacements being upwards of 3k. Having got a sickly Navara with bad timing chain issues I am cautious, but I did see one that has had replacement chains and guides. 344bhp, V8 and 4WD, I'm liking that a lot and as I'm doing my best to up the image of 3 Series drivers at the moment, by being courteous and indicating I could try the same for Audi too.

Carl.

Was the V6 a write off then? :( I liked my Legacy estate but it was a weedy 2.0. I would happily have the fast one.

Good luck.

There are also 545s in range if you want something bigger, or a 300c with the 5.7?

Or if you've taken all your brave pills: V10 S6, an '03 RS6, and a few V8 Allroads.

Unless you want to continue with the Swedish theme and go for a 3.2 XC70

Updated February 11, 2018 at 10:30 AM

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Gavin said...

Was the V6 a write off then? :( I liked my Legacy estate but it was a weedy 2.0. I would happily have the fast one.

Good luck.

Conversation with the repair centre on Friday was that there was nearly 4k of damage to it. Even the best v6 aeros are only worth a little over 5k so it's looking likely. As the damage extends to boot floor and rear panel I don't want it back as it could be hassle further down the line. Plus there's the safety aspect.
The 3.0r spec b I drove yesterday was impressive. I like it a lot.

Carl

If you're a Saab guy, hold out for a turbo X IMO.

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Rich B said...

If you're a Saab guy, hold out for a turbo X IMO.

I wouldn't class myself as a Saab guy. I do like something less obvious though. The waiting will be an issue. I am pretty sure that the insurance company will take the bmw back as soon as they've settled. The turbo x that appeared yesterday is exactly what I'm after apart from electric memory seats so could be an option. It will be a risk jumping on a flight to Edinburgh to buy a car unseen.
Until I get an offer I'll have to sit tight and hope neither sell so I'm left with the choice.

Carl

Dr Carlos said...

Rich B said...

If you're a Saab guy, hold out for a turbo X IMO.

I wouldn't class myself as a Saab guy. I do like something less obvious though. The waiting will be an issue. I am pretty sure that the insurance company will take the bmw back as soon as they've settled. The turbo x that appeared yesterday is exactly what I'm after apart from electric memory seats so could be an option. It will be a risk jumping on a flight to Edinburgh to buy a car unseen.
Until I get an offer I'll have to sit tight and hope neither sell so I'm left with the choice.

Carl

Where have you seen it? I will know someone who knows the car or the garage?

Gavin said...

Dr Carlos said...

Rich B said...

If you're a Saab guy, hold out for a turbo X IMO.

I wouldn't class myself as a Saab guy. I do like something less obvious though. The waiting will be an issue. I am pretty sure that the insurance company will take the bmw back as soon as they've settled. The turbo x that appeared yesterday is exactly what I'm after apart from electric memory seats so could be an option. It will be a risk jumping on a flight to Edinburgh to buy a car unseen.
Until I get an offer I'll have to sit tight and hope neither sell so I'm left with the choice.

Carl

Where have you seen it? I will know someone who knows the car or the garage?

Popped up on auto trader last night craignairn cars in Kirkcaldy. Checking the car out first, especially the haldex and elsd would make taking the flight lunch less risky. Would be an epic drive home too!

Carl

Carl

Dr Carlos said...

Gavin said...

Dr Carlos said...

Rich B said...

If you're a Saab guy, hold out for a turbo X IMO.

I wouldn't class myself as a Saab guy. I do like something less obvious though. The waiting will be an issue. I am pretty sure that the insurance company will take the bmw back as soon as they've settled. The turbo x that appeared yesterday is exactly what I'm after apart from electric memory seats so could be an option. It will be a risk jumping on a flight to Edinburgh to buy a car unseen.
Until I get an offer I'll have to sit tight and hope neither sell so I'm left with the choice.

Carl

Where have you seen it? I will know someone who knows the car or the garage?

Popped up on auto trader last night craignairn cars in Kirkcaldy. Checking the car out first, especially the haldex and elsd would make taking the flight lunch less risky. Would be an epic drive home too!

Carl

Carl


You need to get one of these. There's no way you'd be sounding so excited about buying a mid range BMW!

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Rich

I am just asking on a couple of Saab geek sites about it in case anyone knows the car. Craignairn often have nice Swedish metal but usually at the higher end of the price scale. Have heard good reports though.

Hey Carlos, I am just waiting on the Saab Specialist getting back to me on the car, sorry took a bit of tracking down as I think the owner was not on any Saab social media platform. (Or didn't see my post).

Purely on the garage the owner used I would hazard a guess it will be a good one.

Saw you'd put a post on uk Saab's that went unanswered. It doesn't seem that active as a forum, I haven't gotten a response to my wanted ad yet.
I will certainly give me something to think about if this one is appraised as a good un.

Carl

Perth Saab fitted a new diff pump and the chains were done by Craignairn themselves.

UKSaabs is a great forum but not many posters post to a question unless they know the answer, I got a lead from SSE on Facebook and messaged the owner of the specialist who I know. :) Scottish Saab world is a small place.

Might be worth asking of there is a deal to be done but with it being rare and, to enthusiasts, desirable they may not budge much.

I think the C32 is unlikely to depreciate much out of that lot, so could be factor.

Plus, they really do go like fvck.

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Gavin said...

UKSaabs is a great forum but not many posters post to a question unless they know the answer...

That's a breath of fresh air compared to BMW forums where people post "answers" to questions when they don't even understand the question let alone knowing anything about the topic.

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